Nations Baseball has come up with some of the most advanced technology to try to ensure teams are playing at the appropriate level. Along with technology and rules comes complexity and with complexity comes confusion, so here is a detailed series of the rules and examples to help everybody understand. We understand that some players may have been trying this level and found themselves outclassed, but, by the parent and manager/coach trying the child at this level, they are saying that this player should be no less than one grade behind. All players are allowed to play down one grade from what their LY grade is, but there can be no more than 4 players playing down on any one team. For the purposes of this page, the Metro Class is excluded until post season play, which is play that occurs outside of your local league (These would be Zone, State, or National Events). We encourage leagues to make decisions at the local level to make the league work for their situation. If a local Metro league needs to combine ages or allow Premier or out of class players Nations Baseball will support the decision of the local league, but regular class play rules are in effect for any Zone, Regional, State, or National events at the Metro Class.
Nations Baseball's principal driving factor is the use of what we call a grade. A grade is similar to what you find in school and the objective of the average ball player is to advance one grade a year. A grade is determined by adding the team's age plus class, where Metro is 1, Select is 2, Elite is 3, Premier is 4. So, if a player plays in 11U Elite, that player would be playing at a grade 14 (11 + 3). Please keep in mind that grade takes into account that a team consists of players and that cumulatively they reach an outcome as a group, so the individual is graded on the group performance. We make an assumption that when a manager/coach and a parent agree for a player to play on a team in a game, of which we only can assume if they are on the roster, that the child would at a minimum not hurt the teams performance.
| Grade | Age | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 22 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | 21 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | 20 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | S | 19 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | S | M | 18 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | S | M | 17 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | S | M | 16 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | S | M | 15 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | S | M | 14 | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | S | M | 13 | P | P | P | P | P | P | E | S | M | 12 | P | P | P | P | P | P | S | M | 11 | P | P | P | P | P | S | M | 10 | P | P | P | P | S | M | 9 | P | P | P | S | M | 8 | P | P | P | M | 7 | P | P | M | 6 | P | M | 5 | M |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Equivalent Classes |
|---|
| Grade 5 |
| 4U - Metro Division |
| 4U - Metro Division |
| Grade 6 |
| 4U - Select Division |
| 4U - Select Division |
| 5U - Metro Division |
| 5U - Metro Division |
| Grade 7 |
| 5U - Select Division |
| 5U - Select Division |
| 6U - Metro Division |
| 6U - Metro Division |
| Grade 8 |
| 6U - Select Division |
| 6U - Select Division |
| 7U - Metro Division |
| 7U - Metro Division |
| Grade 9 |
| 7U - Select Division |
| 7U - Select Division |
| 8U - Metro Division |
| 8U - Metro Division |
| Grade 10 |
| 7U - Elite Division |
| 7U - Elite Division |
| 8U - Select Division |
| 8U - Select Division |
| 9U - Metro Division |
| 9U - Metro Division |
| Grade 11 |
| 8U - Elite Division |
| 8U - Elite Division |
| 9U - Select Division |
| 9U - Select Division |
| 10U - Metro Division |
| 10U - Metro Division |
| Grade 12 |
| 9U - Elite Division |
| 9U - Elite Division |
| 10U - Select Division |
| 10U - Select Division |
| 11U - Metro Division |
| 11U - Metro Division |
| Grade 13 |
| 10U - Elite Division |
| 10U - Elite Division |
| 11U - Select Division |
| 11U - Select Division |
| 12U - Metro Division |
| 12U - Metro Division |
| Grade 14 |
| 10U - Premier Division |
| 10U - Premier Division |
| 11U - Elite Division |
| 11U - Elite Division |
| 12U - Select Division |
| 12U - Select Division |
| 13U - Metro Division |
| 13U - Metro Division |
| Grade 15 |
| 11U - Premier Division |
| 11U - Premier Division |
| 12U - Elite Division |
| 12U - Elite Division |
| 13U - Select Division |
| 13U - Select Division |
| 14U - Metro Division |
| 14U - Metro Division |
| Grade 16 |
| 12U - Premier Division |
| 12U - Premier Division |
| 13U - Elite Division |
| 13U - Elite Division |
| 14U - Select Division |
| 14U - Select Division |
| 15U - Metro Division |
| 15U - Metro Division |
| Grade 17 |
| 13U - Premier Division |
| 13U - Premier Division |
| 14U - Elite Division |
| 14U - Elite Division |
| 15U - Select Division |
| 15U - Select Division |
| Rising Juniors - Metro Division |
| 16U - Metro Division |
| Grade 18 |
| 14U - Premier Division |
| 14U - Premier Division |
| 15U - Elite Division |
| 15U - Elite Division |
| 16U - Select Division |
| Rising Juniors - Select Division |
| Rising Seniors - Metro Division |
| 17U - Metro Division |
| Grade 19 |
| 15U - Premier Division |
| 15U - Premier Division |
| Rising Juniors - Elite Division |
| 16U - Elite Division |
| 17U - Select Division |
| Rising Seniors - Select Division |
| 18U - Metro Division |
| 18U - Metro Division |
| Grade 20 |
| 16U - Premier Division |
| Rising Juniors - Premier Division |
| Rising Seniors - Elite Division |
| 17U - Elite Division |
| 18U - Select Division |
| 18U - Select Division |
| 19U - Metro Division |
| 19U - Metro Division |
| Grade 21 |
| 17U - Premier Division |
| Rising Seniors - Premier Division |
| 18U - Elite Division |
| 18U - Elite Division |
| 19U - Select Division |
| 19U - Select Division |
| Grade 22 |
| 18U - Premier Division |
| 18U - Premier Division |
| 19U - Elite Division |
| 19U - Elite Division |
| Grade 23 |
| 19U - Premier Division |
| 19U - Premier Division |
When a player is added to the Nations Baseball system, our staff is looking through various locations to determine what team a player played on last year and how successful that team was in their performance. All teams would fall into one of 3 categories:
How about a few examples to see how this works. Please keep in mind that many factors come into play, no single factor is determining where a team will play, but these examples should help a team understand how they got on what list.
How does this affect my team? Each team is allowed 4 players that are playing down from their LY grade. The basic principal behind this is that each team that is moved up will have a few kids that may not be ready for the transition to the next level, but as a whole they have proven that they need to at minimum try the next level. Those players who are disbursed may not be able to find a team at that level in their area, so to be able to play, they may have to drop back. There is no problem with this, but to prevent a mischievous manager from saying that he lost his stars and needs to stay back, we have simply said that each team is allowed 4 players playing back one level from their LY mandate. Managers, you will find the number of exemptions that you have used in your login window. You may also visually view this on your roster by looking at your team grade and then the LY for each of your players. Here are a few examples.
During the course of a year, parents and managers will make decisions that will impact the eligibility of a player. The TY of a player is only impacted by what a player does on Nations Baseball Rosters. TY is this simple, a player may play down 1 grade from their highest non-qualified roster appearance, a player may not play below their highest qualified roster appearance. Exception: A player may always play their own age at the highest level. One thing that goes along with this is what happens if I have a player playing on more than one team. As long as rosters remain unqualified, players may be on as many rosters as they like. They can be on every roster spanning 4 ages in 5 states at the same time, we encourage players to find the home that fits them and try the next grade up at any age they desire, but once teams begin qualifying, things get sticky. A player may play for only one qualified team in an age (Metro Excluded), but may play for one qualified team in each age for that grade. Now for the examples:
Qualifying events are tournaments or leagues which give berths to zone, state or national events. While playing fall events may be required to be eligible to participate in a fall Zone, State or National event to ensure the appropriate play level of a team, the first date to start qualifying your roster is the Fall State Tournament each year. For the Fall State Tournament thru April 1st, all team managers will have the option to decline an earned berth in a qualifier and no roll down berths will be awarded. NCI tournaments held after the Fall State tournament, reward National berths to teams that qualify. NCI tournaments held before April 1st will award berths, but teams will not be frozen until April 1st. From April 1 through July 31 of each year, berths will be awarded and are mandatory to accept for all Elite and Premier teams finishing in the top 25% of an event, 50% of Select teams will receive berths. During the mandatory period, if a team enters an event and is already qualified, the berth will be offered on a pass down basis, but a team must win a game to receive a berth. Pass down berths may be declined even from April 1 - July 31. Once a team receives a berth, they are now qualified which means that they are eligible to register for the event they qualified for, but it also means that the players on that team no longer are eligible to play down 1 grade and the team is now allowed to add only 3 players from that date through July 31.
We at nations baseball understand that this is a very difficult process to understand. These rules are to help encourage growth, yet protect class play. The reason a Premier player is not allowed at the Select level is to allow select level players to have a chance. We understand that some manager/coaches will recruit top talent from the next level with the intent of beating a group of less talented or experienced players, but by placing restrictions on who is eligible to participate on a team, we have greatly reduced the exposure and given more players a chance to play more competitive ball and have the opportunity to grow and succeed. The underlying principal that Nations Baseball is founded on is that parents, players, coaches, and managers will work together through natural selection to tell us a great deal about a players ability by where they chose to play. If parents know that by appearing on a Premier roster, their child is now ineligible to participate at the Select level at that age again, the parent will think long and hard about this decision and are saying that their player is at a minimum an Elite player at that age. Likewise, a coach or manager adding a player to a roster is saying that this player is at least worth a chance which tells us a great deal about a players ability, we don't believe managers will pick up players that will hurt their team. Many other organizations will allow players and teams to self-classify their teams because "Teams will do what is right," but experience tells us that there is a percentage of teams that will do whatever it takes to get a win or trophy. We want teams to feel confident that by forming a team based on a group of players that meet a certain criteria and by publishing not just the criteria, but the information required to make a decision, then the system will work.
We know it may be convenient to pick up a little brother or neighbor because it is convenient, but when this happens, we don't know if you picked them up because of their ability or convenience. We also don't have the ability to watch hundreds of thousands of children play millions of games each year, so we have to assume the player will be competitive. We have a great number of rules that allow a team to pick up a player for the weekend and there are thousands of players available to you each weekend, you just must make intelligent decisions, you can pick up players a year younger at the same grade and carry them on your roster all year long, you can pick up players a grade up or down in the same age or below as long as you aren't qualified. With this wealth of available players in your area, please keep in mind that if you make the wrong choice for a pick up player, you may be jeopardizing their eligibility for a year or more.
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